A dialog on cultural traditions and understanding

Annabel Park Film Maker

A quote by Annabel Park.

My friend, Annabel Park, an activist and documentary film maker,  tried to begin a dialog on the gun control debate after the mass shootings in Connecticut, but found that the divisions were so deep on this issue, that her faith in dialogue and storytelling was tested.

With her experience with interviewing people for her documentaries, Annabel has been on the front line of the hyper-partisan debates in America. She is now working a documentary called, ‘Story of America: A Nation Divided‘.

Annabel believes in the transformative power of dialog and storytelling, as I do, because  just spouting opinions at those that disagree with you will not achieve good results. It requires listening.

If you listen to the other side’s stories while relating some of your own, the conversation has more of a chance to become civil and dialog may occur. There are some that will never be reached though. Their stance on this issue is so culturally ingrained in their world outlook that advocating for any changes will always be a non-starter.

However, not everyone believes as strongly as they do, and are not as fixed in their views on the second amendment that listening to the stories of other people can be attempted. Many people really do live in different cultural worlds, but within each of those worlds, there are people like me that agree with Annabel’s thoughts on common sense gun measures, even though they believe everyone has the right to own a gun for protection and hunting.

I have been seeking others that believe in the 2nd Amendment but also believe changes need to be made for gun control, because they are the key in helping to diffuse the hostility of the debate. They are fluent in the cultural and religious traditions and can better verbalize the concerns and trepidation of the gun control advocates, as well as those of the gun rights advocates.

If the call becomes large enough for change, real progress may occur, if that call is heard from within each of the gun rights advocate’s own communities.

After Annabel wrote a blog post advocating basic gun regulation to her pro-gun friends, a heated debate ensued, and in response, she wrote this essay:

Annabel Park, a founder of the Coffee Party USA civility group, interviews gun control opponents

Annabel Park, a founder of the Coffee Party USA civility group, interviews gun control opponents

Zombies, guns and confronting my biggest fear

- By Annabel Park · December 27, 2012

Dear Friends,

I have been reflecting a good deal on this past year and why my new project Story of America means so much to me.

It was a difficult year for many of us because, regardless of how you feel about the outcome of the 2012 election, the debates that we witnessed this year were a reminder that we are indeed very divided from each other.

As some of you know, I have deep faith in the transformative power of dialogue and storytelling. Even during the ugliest moments during the election, I maintained the faith that we can heal the divide in our country through dialogue.

We began filming Story of America in the first week of November and documented just how divided we were as voters even down to our experiences of voting. We created videos aboutBattleground Virginia and were featured in the Washington Post for our dramatic coverage of the 5-hour lines at polling stations in Prince William County.

After the Newtown massacre, I must confess, my faith in dialogue was tested. Two days after the shooting, I wrote a blog post, Replying to my pro-gun friends, addressing some popular pro-gun talking points and pointing out that we need sensible gun regulation. My basic point is that gun laws should be regarded as a public safety issue. With nearly 50k likes and over 650 comments, it generated a lot of discussion. Along with hundreds of people, I tried to reply to some of the angry comments on that page and in my inbox. I found it incredibly challenging to engage people in a constructive dialogue.

I get the self-defense argument, especially for those living in rural areas. I’m not someone calling for a ban on all guns — not at all. I’m aware that most gun owners are responsible. I personally know plenty of responsible gun owners.

What I don’t get is the desire and need for military-style assault weapons. The argument that this kind of weapon is needed for defending oneself from home invaders and wild animals or hunting animals for food is not convincing to me. The fact that so many people desire and own these weapons makes me wonder if people approach ordinary life in America as warfare. Why do we need such powerful weapons? Are we in a war of some kind against one another and I didn’t know it?

While trying to talk to people online about gun control after Newtown, I started to wonder if we just live in different worlds and we don’t have enough in common for dialogue. I feared that my critics are living in the Walking Dead, the post-apocalyptic TV show about zombies, and I’m living in a Frank Capra movie. That is, we’re not just divided, we live in such different realities that we cannot understand each other and feel alienated from each other.

I’m not saying that all pro-gun people live in this world. I worry that there is a subset of pro-gun advocates who do live in this world and those are the people who test my faith in dialogue.

This is my fear and this is what some people tried to tell me in the last three years since the rise of the Tea Party: the other side is full of crazy, evil, and horrible people. You can’t reason with them. You can only beat them or eliminate them from the process. I had insisted that this is just not how American democracy works. We need many voices, a diversity of people freely expressing their opinions: E pluribus unum.

Last Friday, Eric Byler and I documented the protest outside the NRA press conference in Washington DC, their first one after Newtown. We captured NRA protesters shouting at pro-gun activists trying to disrupt their protest. I was confronted face-to-face with the specter of that existential chasm — it looked like the NRA protesters and the pro-gun activists were utterly alien and zombie-like to each other.

In fact, when I was interviewing Larry Ward, one of the pro-gun advocates arguing with the NRA protesters, he specifically asked what would happen to us if we declared a zombie-free zone. We’d get eaten by zombies. He started out speaking about zombies figuratively, but then compared people addicted to meth to zombies.

This is my fear about America in a nutshell: Are we feeling so alienated from one another that we see the other as zombie-like and worthless? That is, not deserving of compassion, a voice in the political process, or even life? And, is this alienation creeping into our legislative process? Everything from gun control to the budget, immigration laws, and Stand Your Ground laws?

And if that is the case, what are the ultimate consequences and the remedies?

I do accept the point of my pro-gun friends and perhaps the creators of the Walking Dead that to some extent that civilization (law and order) is more fragile than we’d like to believe it is and there are some truly awful and destructive people out there. I can readily imagine needing to defend myself from chaotic and violent forces in our society.

The problem is that the belief that civilization is breaking down can become a self-fulfilling prophesy. The less you trust and value civilization and the inherent worth of human beings, the more willing you will be to live outside it and see the people inside as weak, parasitic and worthless. This kind of alienation from our society just is destabilizing.

I believe we have a big choice to make right now and this is the bigger point that I think the creators of the Walking Dead are making: civilization is a choice not a given. In order to make that choice, we must think about some fundamental questions about our relationship to each other. Do we see value in each other as human beings? As fellow Americans? Do we want to reaffirm the Union? Do we choose to commit to the principles and the experiment that is America? Is so, what does that mean? Do we consent to the social contract? If so, what does that mean? And, how do we (re)commit to the social contract in a meaningful way?

Something interesting happened for me last Friday outside the NRA press conference that helped me answer some of those questions. Despite my fear that Larry Ward and Adam Kokesh (independent journalist who created Adam Vs the Man) lived in a different world, we talked.

After a few minutes of talking, they did not seem alien to me at all. I quickly realized that my initial assessment of them was fear-based and way off. I didn’t agree with them, but I was able to have a civil and reasonable conversation with them. In engaging them on this polarizing topic, I thought it would be helpful if we can begin the conversation with the agreement that guns are already regulated so that discussion is not centered on IF it should be since it already is. Both Larry and Adam readily agreed that guns were already regulated. Now the question is, which regulations are actually helpful from the standpoint of public safety and acceptable from the standpoint of self-defense/gun rights of individuals? Surely, we can have a balance of those two. I do believe there was some progress made. What do you think? I’m curious to hear your opinion on these videos.

Beyond the issue of regulating guns, I realized that my anxiety about our alienation from each other, the Walking Dead problem, can be addressed by talking. Moreover, I think dialogue is itself a reaffirmation of the social contract. If we didn’t care about that contract at all, we wouldn’t be talking; we’d be shooting or eating each other. We would resort to violence much more often than communication. As it is, even though we’re often uncivil and ineffective, we’re still talking to each other. That says something. The more we talk to each other with respect (speaking our minds and listening), the less alienated we will be from each other, and the stronger our nation will be.

I know that’s a lot of pressure to place on talking and dialogue. However, a sophisticated language is, after all, what distinguishes human beings from the rest of the animal kingdom.

It’s tempting to think that the main problem with politics in America is extremism. I think it’s a combination of extremism and the silent, browbeaten, apathetic, exhausted, cynical, disengaged and marginalized majority. That majority must now stand together with a roar to reset the course for America by dominating the national dialogue instead of allowing it to be controlled by the loudest and the most divisive few.

This has been a long explanation of why I’m putting my heart and soul into the Story of America. Thank you for listening.

I believe we are ready to have a dialogue about gun control. We must be, because the violence will continue and continue to the point where no one will care anymore when they learn about future mass shootings and the senseless deaths they cause. We are almost there now, but if the dialog can turn to common sense regulations and removing the fear that many have about their guns being taken away, constructive talks may finally begin.

Many staunch second amendment advocates have family and friends that are not as unyielding in their beliefs. They may agree that everyone has a right to own guns, but they also see the devastation caused by the mass shootings using high power weapons, high-capacity magazine clips and armor piercing ammunition.

For those that honestly want to find a solutions to this national debate, we need to seek these people out and begin a dialog. They are the key, because they are the only ones that can influence those that cannot be reached.

5 thoughts on “A dialog on cultural traditions and understanding

  1. Although I admire your friend for trying, such efforts to find a “dialog” in America shall always fail now.

    It is apparent the mainstream media is now The Establishment Media. It is totally liberal and devoid of conservative views. Pro 2nd Amendment opinions are censored there – as are all conservatives – because media personnel are unanimous Democrat Party Members.

    It is why blogs replaced MSM.

    • I agree the media definitely has its problems. Besides the media that is unabashedly partisan, there are some outlets that at least make the attempt not to appear so.

      That being said and the fact that I am a liberal, I think sometimes they appear only democrat because they agree with accepted science and math along with established history, and this causes many of the most ideological conservatives to discount them totally.

      Please don’t get me wrong, I definitely see some only highlighting liberal ideas too. As a historian though, I try to weed out the facts from the spin with whatever article or news story that I see.

      I think the hostility will always be a part of this discussion, and time and understanding will be required to get past it. To me, storytelling sometimes has a better result because beliefs that are bounced off opponents usually cause only rhetorical hyperbole, but stories sometime show similarities that would not normally be pointed out in regular discussion or debate.

  2. Victor Davis Hanson is one I know you must be familiar with. He gave a presentation in New England.

    An astute member of the audience asked him “what really were the causes of The Civil War?” He adroitly answered: All the compromises that could be made, WERE made.

    Liberals and Conservatives must realize our government no longer governs. The Fiscal Cliff debacle proves so.

    Both of us face a world where Elites are the one true enemy.

    It is unwise for “little people” conservatives to follow Sean Hannity in cheerleading tax breaks for the rich…just as it is unwise for Liberals to cheer Chris Matthews’ reactionary screeds on banning guns. The Elite Government that ensues will equally trample both their rights. Hannity & Matthews live in $2,000,000 Manhattan penthouses so tax breaks are great – and guns don’t bother them. In Future America, you’ll have a gunless population working for Warren Buffet 2.0

    We, live in the real world. Until we start to govern it, we will be beholden to aristocratic powers we let grow into royalty.

    I urge you to explore my vision of Future America on Eradica and comment. I do not censor comments. Perhaps you will gain a larger audience for your own site.

    • I agree with much that you have said, and I will definitely comment on your site.

      All sides should have a voice, and all should have their place in beginning a dialog. For me, I believe it is important to try to be as diplomatic as possible while going about it.

      Thanks for commenting here as well.

  3. Pingback: How Leftist & Conservative Elites Control You | Eradica

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